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Family of Walter PAYNE and Margaret ELLIOTT

Husband: Walter PAYNE (1833- )
Wife: Margaret ELLIOTT (1832- )
Marriage 20 Feb 1889 Westhampnett Registry office

Husband: Walter PAYNE

Name: Walter PAYNE
Sex: Male
Father: -
Mother: -
Birth 1833

Wife: Margaret ELLIOTT

Name: Margaret ELLIOTT
Sex: Female
Father: Joseph ELLIOTT ( - )
Mother: -
Birth 1832 Manchester, Lancs

Note on Husband: Walter PAYNE - shared note

1. Walter Payne was a widower aged 56 at the time of his marriage to Margaret Sparshott in 1889. His father was David Payne (deceased) who had been an Agricultural labourer. I really can't read Walter's profession.

Note on Wife: Margaret ELLIOTT - shared note

1. At the time of her marriage she is is living at Chatham Barracks, and her father's name is given as Joseph Elliott

 

2. In the 1851 census, she is living with her husband George at Chatham Barracks. She gives her age as 19, and her place of birth as Manchester, Lancs.

 

3. In the 1861 census she is with her husband and two children in St Pancras Street, Chichester. She gives her age as 29 and her place of birth as Manchester, Lancs.

 

4. In the 1881 Census she says that she is aged 49 and born in Weedon, Northants. (This could be either Weedon Bec of Weedon Lois - of these Weedon Bec is significantly larger - both then and now. I have searched the relevant Northampton parish registers of baptisms without success, but I see that both Weedons have some non-conformist registers which I have not checked. The parishes I have searched (all dates inclusive) are : Weeden Lois (1827-1837), Weedon Bec (1828-1837), Daventry (1830-1833), and the following which are all the parishes surrounding Weedon Bec - Flore, Dodford, Newnham, Everdon, Farthingstone, Stowe Nine Churches, Heyford (all 1827-1836). Daventry, Weedon Bec and Flore each have one family of Elliotts, but none with a father named Joseph. There is an Elliott family in Flore who have the 'place' column of the register filled in as Weedon. ] NB. There was a large barracks at Weedon Bec, so maybe it is more likely that her father had been stationed there at some time.

 

5. If we take the Manchester birth place as the right one, then the IGI has a possible candidate born on March 16 1932, the daughter of Joseph and Phebe, in Bolton le Moors (which is the modern Bolton). Is it likely that a northerner would describe Bolton as 'Manchester' when living in the south ?

 

6. In 1889, aged 56, she married Walter Payne a widower of the same age in Westhampnett. (So clearly George Sparshott had died before then.) At this time she gives her father's profession as 'Segeant in Army' (although he is, of course, deceased). In the marriage certificate they both give their address as Bottle Lane, Portfield (which is just out of Chichester on the Eastern side). Neither of them could sign their name. Slightly surprisingly there is no trace either of Walter or Margaret Payne in Sussex in the 1901 census.